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Camping 2008

The Trip:  

Old Logger's Path

Nearby City: Ellenton, PA & Williamsport, PA
Length: 27 total miles
Skill level: Easy to Moderate
Trail type: Loop
Trail category: State Forest Trail

Weekend of  October 10, 11, and 12th
Friday, Saturday, Sunday

We're going to hit the entire 27 mile loop, possibly minus 2 miles at the Trailhead at Masten, and we'll be taking a couple shortcuts.  It will consist of a big first day,  but this will allow us to camp along running water both nights.

The entire trail system is within State Forest lands that were formerly property of the Central Pennsylvania Logging Company in the late 19th and very early 20th century.  Many of these trails we'll be on are abandoned, 100-year-old railroad grades from this era, making for quite a smooth hike.  Other trails are old Indian hunting trails.

There's a ghost town of Masten, Pa, still on the maps and record books.  We'll hit that.  In addition, the vistas are reportedly great, the Rock Run stream is noted as one of the most scenic in PA .  Numerous rock outcroppings and stream crossings will also add to the trail.  These are a few of the noted points of interest in this area.  Sherpa will point out these items, including off-shoots to waterfalls.

wildlife in the area:  deer, porcupine, turkey, raccoon, opossum, grouse, bobcat, black bear, elk, rattlesnake

 


Participants

Trail Details

Detailed Trail Descriptions

Trip Details

Equipment and Food

Trail Hazards and Dangers


Participants


 
The Crew:
                       we officially have 10 backpackers.  Final number.  Trip closed.



Jesse


Clarke


Joe
Wild Card

 

Piccolo

Brian


Eric



Matt
 

Jason

Andy
 


Anthony
 
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introduction:

EARLY (7:00 - 7-30) departure from Eric's house on day 1, hiking on the trail by 10:30 or 11:00, hopefully. 
 

-  backpacking is usually at the rate of 2 m.p.h., minimum. 
 
P  trails will total about 20 miles or less
P  three days of hiking
P
6-7 miles per day

That's hiking for roughly 4 hours a day, 2 or 3 hours in morning and/or 2 or 3 hours in afternoon.   It's not tough. We have all day to go the distance.  I'm sure there are some steep sections, so we'll have the extra time needed for these sections of trail.
 
Last year we were setting up camp before 2:00 pm and everyone seemed to enjoy the downtime.  Joe.  We'll work to repeat that experience.





Trail Details

Trail Stats

Trail Location



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Located in Lycoming County, PA



Elevation Scale - miles 0 - 15



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Elevation Scale - miles 15-27


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Elevation cross-section of the trail from miles 0 - 27


 


Trail
Weather

Weather forecast: Williamsport
zip code = 17701

HISTORY OF WILLIAMSPORT, PA  AREA WEATHER

Date:                            Low             High           Avg / mean of 24 hour period               Precipitation       

2007:
October 9:                       58              90                            72                                             0.09"
October 10:                     51              89                            64                                             0.00"
October 11:                     50              75                            53                                             0.04"
October 12:                     48              57                            53                                             0.19"
October 13:                     37              61                            49                                             0.00"

2006:
October 9:                       42              77                            58                                            0.00"
October 10:                     48              77                            60                                             0.00"
October 11:                     48              75                            64                                             0.00"
October 12:                     44              65                            59                                             0.54"
October 13                      30              63                            41                                             0.00 "

2005:
October 9:                        49            69                             52                                            0.17"
October 10:                       51           61                             55                                             0.00"        FOG
October 11:                       51           64                             59                                             0.00"        FOG
October 12:                       55           61                             59                                             0.02"        FOG/RAIN
October 13:                       52           58                             55                                             0.54"

As we get closer, we'll have more weather info.

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Detailed Trail Descriptions

- Many of the trails are old railroad-grade roads.  Very level ( < 4% grade) and no railroad ties or rails remain.  Essentially, grassy 10-ft-wide paths.

- Masten, PA is within the forest grounds and a ghost town from the time when this was a lumber area.

- Rock Run is considered one of the most scenic creeks in PA, complete with waterfalls and pools.

- There are many trail crossings (without bridges) as part of this trail system.

- T
iadaghton State Park gets it's name from what local Indians called this area.  I think it means "drunken idiots building an excessive bonfire"

- The last resident of the ghost town of Masten, PA left the town in 1941, after the lumber company closed in the 1930's.

- "Cherry Ridge Trail is an easier side trail [off OLP] with little elevation change" -
Great Hikes in the Poconos and Northeast Pennsylvania By Boyd Newman, Linda A. Newman

- Pennsylvania's elk herd census in 1994 was 224 animals; in 2000, it was 566 animals.  They're in the area.

- from Summitpost.org
OLD LOGGERS PATH
  The Old Loggers Path is a 27 mile loop trail in northern Lycoming County of Pennsylvania. It follows many of the old railroad grades from the logging era and this is where it gets its name. The trail is a pleasant hike crossing streams with waterfalls and showcasing a few good vistas. The best vista, Sharp Top vista, is at mile 19. The Sharp Top vista has a gorgeous view of the surrounding plateau and ridge and valley areas of Pennsylvania. A guide to the Old Loggers Path can be found in either of the books 50 Hikes in Central Pennsylvania or Backpacking Pennsylvania listed below.

- "there [was] no water from the point yellow dog run meets rock run all the way to long run. did the hike in October, doe [run] and buck run were completely dry. aside from the lack of water during that stretch the trip was a lot of fun and challenging enough give you a good workout"
---  http://www.localhikes.com/Hikes/OldLoggersPath_9140.asp

 

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Trip Details


Eric's Requirements:

-  must purchase and break-in your own hard-sole hiking boots prior to trip.  approx $100-$160 and subject to inspection before the trip. 
-  unnecessarily large bonfires at night
-  be in good enough shape to keep up.  This trip is incentive for me to reduce my beer gut.
-  no cell phones for 3 days.  they stay in the car.  No reception, anyway.


Extra Details:

- lightweight backpacking stove will provide boiling water.  Actual cooking on the stove maintaining a boil requires extra fuel.  Group consensus to carry extra fuel?  Fine by me. 
-
October in the mountains can get cold at night, avg low there is 41 degrees F.  Either a warm tent or a warm sleeping bag suggested.
-
S'mores =
you will be hogtied from a tree covered with honey and bar-b-q sauce.  Save it to share with the women and children.
- B.Y.O.B.
- consider the possibility of rain
at night and/or two days of travel.  Pack accordingly.
- in relation to rain, BRING A WATERPROOF BACKPACK COVER.
- trail is carry-in, carry-out. 
We hike all trash off of the trail.  Burn any natural materials at campfire.
b
lack bears can run 35 m.p.h. for 10 miles at a stretch, and they easily climb trees.  Find a
fat guy to bring along to carry the food.


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Equipment and Food

   ...::: right-click here and choose 'save target as' to copy the master item checklist  :::...
 

Preparations:
 

Major equipment to start trying to borrow or to buy:

P   hiking boots

P  1- or 2-person tents

P  sleeping bag, rated to either 40 degree F or 20 degree F. 

P hiking backpack, minimum 3000 cubic inches.  Internal frame is 90% of current market, while external frame packs are older and also fine. 


Other equipment to accrue:

P Food
 
   Over the years I've found the easiest and most filling meals on the trail are the 20 oz variety of Mountain House brand foods.  I'll be putting together an online order for everyone about a month before the trip.  You can't go wrong with beef jerky, either.  It's almost required.
Regardless, everyone is encouraged to bring exactly what they want to
eat.

P Clothing suggestions
    -  backpacking / hiking socks recommended
    -  rain cover or some type.  I just bring a thin rain jacket and a pack cover.
    -  pair of sandals or alternate shoes for campsite
.
    -  this is a prime chance to reduce the weight of your pack.  think light.


P 
Rain Gear - for the backpack and for the hiker  -   for an October hike, it's worth mentioning twice

P
  Disposable or Digital camera

P  spirited drink    [click here]

P  flashlight or other light source


P 
water bottles.  Yes,
don't forget water bottles.
 

Q   We DON'T need:
    -  anything with a trigger.
  

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Trail Dangers and Hazards
just make sure you're aware of these


Rattlesnakes

Pennsylvania State Forests are inhabited by multiple species of rattlesnake.  Rattlesnake bites are rarely fatal.  IF we see one, and IF we don't hear the rattle, and IF we get too close, and IF it strikes, and IF it's not a dry bite, what to do
Pa. DCNR Dept info on Timber Rattlesnakes. 

PDF Brochure: "Rattlesnakes in Pennsylvania State Forests" <-- right-click,  choose "save target as.."



Copperheads

The Copperhead is the most common venomous snake found in the eastern US. It is also known by the name "Highland Moccasin." As a species, it belongs to the genus "Agkistrodon" which also includes the Cottonmouth, also known as the "Water Moccasin".

Copperheads are usually colorful and strikingly patterned snakes. They derive their name from the copper-like coloring of the head. The background color of the back and sides is tan to pinkish. There are darker, chestnut colored bands across the back and sides. Each band is of varying width, often described as hour-glass shaped. Newborn Copperheads are colored and patterned like adults, excepting the last inch of so of the tail which will be a bright, sulfur yellow color.
Adults are usually in the range of 24 to 36 inches in length, although specimens of greater than 42 inches are not rare. They give live birth to young. Copperheads eat small rodents, birds, lizards, snakes, amphibians, and insects.

Copperheads are venomous, pit vipers. Copperheads account for more cases of venomous snake bite than any of our other species. Fortunately, their venom is the least toxic of our species. Bites from Copperheads are very seldom fatal; however, a bite may still produce serious consequences.

Copperheads can be found in most all habitats, although they often prefer to be near streams and other waterways. They may be found on hilltops or lowlands. It is not unusual for Copperheads to be found in forested or undeveloped areas within and near suburban developments. The Copperhead is one of the most successful of our larger snake species. It is usually not difficult to find a Copperhead crossing a road on a warm summer night. Because of their habit of freezing at the approach of danger, many are killed by vehicle traffic.

Copperheads prefer habitats with lots of vines, vegetation and/or debris. Their coloration and patterning is very effective for camouflage in dead leaves on the forest floor. Copperheads rely upon camouflage and cover for safety. When danger is perceived, Copperheads will usually freeze in place and remain motionless for the threat to pass. This strategy works well in their natural habitat. Unless a person steps on them, grasps them, or otherwise comes very, very close to them, Copperheads will not usually bite. However, the bite will be readily used as a last
defense. An agitated Copperhead will vibrate its tail rapidly. The relative abundance of Copperheads and their occurrences near human habitations is the reason bites from Copperheads are at the top of venomous snake bite statistics in the eastern US.


Cottonmouth
a
.
k.a. Water Moccasin ---NOT FOUND in N.E. Pennsylvania normally

it is found throughout Florida, with a range extending north to Virginia and west to Illinois, Missouri, Oklahoma, and Texas. Its habitat encompasses wetlands and waterways, such as streams, springs, rivers, lakes, ponds, marshes, swamps, sloughs, reservoirs, retention pools, canals, and even roadside ditches. Occasionally it can be found rather far from the water, and has been found in trees and bushes. Cottonmouths feed primarily on fish, frogs, mice, rats, and other small mammals.

Often, cottonmouths are confused with water snakes, non-poisonous snakes who share the same habitats. These harmless water snakes are often killed out of fear and ignorance. Actually, cottonmouths are also often killed for the same reasons. Except for self defense or positive identification in the case of snakebite, it is best to leave all snakes alone. Snakes help keep the environment in balance. For instance, a shortage of snakes means an increase in the mice and rat population, which brings on epidemics of disease often fatal for humans. Also, picking up or attempting to kill a snake can be one sure way of being bitten.

Found in the eastern United States from extreme southeastern Virginia, south through the Florida peninsula and west to Arkansas, southeastern Kansas, eastern and southern Oklahoma, and eastern and central Texas. A few records exist of the species being found along the Rio Grande in Texas, but these are thought to represent disjunct populations, now possibly extirpated. The type locality given is "Carolina," although Schmidt (1953) proposed that this be restricted to the area around Charleston, South Carolina.[1]

Campbell and Lamar (2004) mentions this species as being found in Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, eastern Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, and Virginia.[4] Maps provided by Campbell and Lamar (2004) and Wright and Wright (1957) also indicate its presence in eastern Tennessee and extreme southeastern Nebraska.[4][2]

In Georgia it is found in the southern half of the state up to a few kilometers north of the fall line with few exceptions. Its range also includes the Ohio River Valley as far north as southern Illinois, and it inhabits many barrier islands off the coasts of the states where it is found.

Black Bears
** The last time we were at World's End State Park, we saw a cub.  It was walking across the road as we approached World's End.  Mama bear was close by.

Many Pennsylvania state parks are habitat for black bears. Although they appear cute and cuddly like a teddy bear, black bears are wild animals.

A black bear can scramble up a tree like a raccoon and sprint as fast as a race horse. Bears use their claws to tear apart rotting logs to find food, and those claws also work well to open garbage cans and coolers. The size and strength of a black bear is astonishing.

Black bears have poor eyesight and fair hearing, but an excellent sense of smell. Aromatic scents coming from your food can attract a curious and hungry bear from a great distance.

Store all food items inside a vehicle. At primitive, walk-in campsites, suspend food between two trees, ten feet in the air and three feet from either tree.

Black bears normally avoid people, but bears dependent on eating human food can become slightly aggressive when people get between them and food.

If you come in contact with a black bear, try chasing it away by making loud noises like yelling, honking a car horn or banging a pot. Notify a park employee if you have difficulties with bears.

Never approach a bear and be especially wary of mother bears and cubs.

Ursus americanus 
     The black bear ranges across forested Canada from Newfoundland to British Columbia as well as much of the United States. A solitary animal most of the year, they pair up briefly during the mating season. Cubs remain with their mother for about a year, who protects which prevents them from being killed by the adult males. 
     Black bears swim well and often climb trees to feed on buds and fruit. They have a keen sense of smell, acute hearing, but poor eyesight. They can be seen at any hour of the day, but are most active at night. When very young, the cubs cry when afraid and hum when contented. 
     Black bears are omnivorous; their diet consists of about 75 percent vegetable matter, 15 percent carrion, and 10 percent insects and small mammals. Their love for honey is well known, and sweet, ripe corn in autumn is also a favorite.


 

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