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Camping 2008 The Trip: Nearby City: Ellenton, PA &
Williamsport, PA |
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Weekend of October 10, 11, and 12th We're going to hit the entire 27 mile loop, possibly minus 2 miles at the Trailhead at Masten, and we'll be taking a couple shortcuts. It will consist of a big first day, but this will allow us to camp along running water both nights. The entire trail system is within State Forest lands that
were formerly property of the Central Pennsylvania Logging Company in the late 19th
and very early 20th century. Many of these trails we'll be on are
abandoned, 100-year-old railroad grades from this era, making for quite a
smooth hike. Other trails are old Indian hunting trails.
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The Crew:
we officially have 10 backpackers. Final number. Trip closed.
![]() Jesse |
Clarke |
![]() Joe Wild Card |
Piccolo |
![]() Brian |
Eric |
![]() Matt |
![]() Jason |
Andy |
Anthony |
introduction:
EARLY (7:00 - 7-30)
departure from
Eric's house on day 1, hiking on the trail by 10:30 or 11:00, hopefully.
- backpacking is usually at the rate of 2
m.p.h., minimum.
P
trails will total about 20 miles
or less
P
three days of hiking
P 6-7 miles per day
That's hiking for roughly 4 hours a day, 2 or 3
hours in morning and/or 2 or 3 hours in afternoon. It's not tough.
We have all day to go the distance. I'm
sure there are some steep sections, so
we'll have the extra time needed for these sections of trail.
Last year we were setting up camp before 2:00 pm and everyone seemed to enjoy
the downtime. Joe. We'll work to repeat that experience.
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Trail Stats |
![]() Located in Lycoming County, PA |
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Elevation Scale - miles 15-27
![]() Click onto the picture to see a large topo map and elevation |
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Trail
Weather
Weather forecast:
Williamsport zip code = 17701
HISTORY OF WILLIAMSPORT, PA AREA
WEATHER
Date:
Low High
Avg / mean of 24 hour
period
Precipitation
2007:
October
9:
58
90
72
0.09"
October
10:
51
89
64
0.00"
October
11:
50
75
53
0.04"
October
12:
48
57
53
0.19"
October
13:
37
61
49
0.00"
2006:
October
9:
42
77
58
0.00"
October
10:
48
77
60
0.00"
October
11:
48
75
64
0.00"
October
12:
44
65
59
0.54"
October
13
30
63
41
0.00 "
2005:
October
9:
49
69
52
0.17"
October
10:
51
61
55
0.00" FOG
October
11:
51
64
59
0.00" FOG
October
12:
55
61
59
0.02" FOG/RAIN
October
13:
52
58
55
0.54"
As we get closer, we'll have more weather info.
- Many of the trails are
old railroad-grade roads. Very level ( < 4% grade) and no railroad ties
or rails remain. Essentially,
grassy 10-ft-wide paths.
- Masten, PA is within the forest grounds and a ghost town from the time when
this was a lumber area.
- Rock Run is considered one of the most scenic creeks in PA, complete with
waterfalls and pools.
- There are many trail crossings (without bridges) as part of this trail system.
- Tiadaghton State Park gets it's name from
what local Indians called this area. I think it means "drunken idiots
building an excessive bonfire"
- The last resident of the ghost town of Masten,
PA left the town in 1941, after the lumber company closed in the 1930's.
- "Cherry Ridge Trail is an easier side trail [off OLP]
with little elevation change" - Great
Hikes in the Poconos and Northeast Pennsylvania By
Boyd Newman, Linda A. Newman
- Pennsylvania's elk herd census in 1994 was
224 animals; in 2000, it was 566 animals. They're in the area.
- from Summitpost.org :
OLD LOGGERS PATH The Old Loggers Path is a 27
mile loop trail in northern Lycoming County of Pennsylvania. It follows many of
the old railroad grades from the logging era and this is where it gets its name.
The trail is a pleasant hike crossing streams with waterfalls and showcasing a
few good vistas. The best vista, Sharp Top vista, is at mile 19. The Sharp Top
vista has a gorgeous view of the surrounding plateau and ridge and valley areas
of Pennsylvania. A guide to the Old Loggers Path can be found in either of the
books 50 Hikes in Central Pennsylvania or Backpacking Pennsylvania
listed below.
- "there [was] no water from the point yellow dog run meets rock run all
the way to long run. did the hike in October, doe [run] and buck run were
completely dry. aside from the lack of water during that stretch the trip was a
lot of fun and challenging enough give you a good workout"
--- http://www.localhikes.com/Hikes/OldLoggersPath_9140.asp
Eric's Requirements:
- must purchase and break-in your own
hard-sole hiking boots prior to trip. approx $100-$160 and subject to inspection before the trip.
- unnecessarily large bonfires at night
- be in good enough shape to keep up. This trip is
incentive for me to reduce my beer gut.
- no cell phones for 3 days. they stay in the car. No
reception, anyway.
...:::
right-click here and choose 'save target as' to copy the master item
checklist :::...
Preparations:
Major equipment to start trying to
borrow or to
buy:
P hiking boots
P 1- or 2-person tents
P
sleeping bag, rated to either 40 degree F or 20 degree
F.
P
hiking backpack, minimum 3000 cubic inches. Internal frame is 90% of
current market, while external frame packs are older and also fine.
Other equipment to accrue:
P Food
Over the years I've found the easiest and most filling meals on the trail are
the 20 oz variety of Mountain House brand foods.
I'll be putting together an online order for everyone about a month before the
trip. You can't go wrong with
beef jerky, either. It's almost required.
Regardless,
everyone is encouraged to bring exactly what they want to eat.
P Clothing
suggestions
- backpacking / hiking socks recommended
- rain cover or some type. I just bring a thin
rain jacket and a pack cover.
- pair of sandals or alternate shoes for campsite.
- this is a prime chance to reduce the weight of your
pack. think light.
P
Rain Gear - for
the backpack and for the hiker - for an October hike, it's
worth mentioning twice
P
Disposable or Digital camera
P
spirited
drink [click here]
P flashlight or other light source
P water bottles.
Yes, don't forget water bottles.
Q
We DON'T need:
- anything with
a trigger.
Rattlesnakes
Pennsylvania State Forests are inhabited by multiple species of rattlesnake. Rattlesnake bites are rarely fatal.
IF we see one, and IF we don't hear the rattle, and IF we get too close, and IF it strikes, and IF it's not a dry bite, what to do
Copperheads
The Copperhead is the most common venomous snake found in the eastern US. It is also known by the name "Highland Moccasin." As a species, it belongs to the genus "Agkistrodon" which also includes the Cottonmouth, also known as the "Water Moccasin".
Copperheads are usually colorful and strikingly patterned snakes. They derive their name from the copper-like coloring of the head. The background color of the back and sides is tan to pinkish. There are darker, chestnut colored bands across the back and sides. Each band is of
varying width, often described as hour-glass shaped. Newborn Copperheads are colored and patterned like adults, excepting the last inch of so of the tail which will be a bright, sulfur yellow color.Copperheads are venomous, pit vipers. Copperheads account for more cases of venomous snake bite than any of our other species. Fortunately, their venom is the least toxic of our species. Bites from Copperheads are very seldom fatal; however, a bite may still produce serious consequences.
Copperheads can be found in most all habitats,
although they often prefer to be near streams and other waterways. They may be
found on hilltops or lowlands. It is not unusual for Copperheads to be found in
forested or undeveloped areas within and near suburban developments. The
Copperhead is one of the most successful of our larger snake species. It is
usually not difficult to find a Copperhead crossing a road on a warm summer
night. Because of their habit of freezing at the approach of danger, many are
killed by vehicle traffic.

Copperheads prefer habitats with lots of vines, vegetation and/or debris. Their
coloration and patterning is very effective for camouflage in dead leaves on the
forest floor. Copperheads rely upon camouflage and cover for safety. When danger
is perceived, Copperheads will usually freeze in place and remain motionless for
the threat to pass. This strategy works well in their natural habitat. Unless a
person steps on them, grasps them, or otherwise comes very, very close to them,
Copperheads will not usually bite. However, the bite will be readily used as a
last
Cottonmouth
it is found throughout
Florida, with a range extending north to Virginia and west to Illinois,
Missouri, Oklahoma, and Texas. Its habitat encompasses wetlands and waterways,
such as streams, springs, rivers, lakes, ponds, marshes, swamps, sloughs,
reservoirs, retention pools, canals, and even roadside ditches. Occasionally it
can be found rather far from the water, and has been found in trees and bushes.
Cottonmouths feed primarily on fish, frogs, mice, rats, and other small mammals.

Often, cottonmouths are
confused with water snakes, non-poisonous snakes who share the same habitats.
These harmless water snakes are often killed out of fear and ignorance.
Actually, cottonmouths are also often killed for the same reasons. Except for
self defense or positive identification in the case of snakebite, it is best to
leave all snakes alone. Snakes help keep the environment in balance. For
instance, a shortage of snakes means an increase in the mice and rat population,
which brings on epidemics of disease often fatal for humans. Also, picking up or
attempting to kill a snake can be one sure way of being bitten.
Found in the eastern United States from extreme southeastern Virginia, south
through the Florida peninsula and west to Arkansas, southeastern Kansas, eastern
and southern Oklahoma, and eastern and central Texas. A few records exist of the
species being found along the Rio Grande in Texas, but these are thought to
represent disjunct populations, now possibly extirpated. The type locality given
is "Carolina," although Schmidt (1953) proposed that this be restricted to the
area around Charleston, South Carolina.[1]
Campbell and Lamar (2004) mentions this species as being found in Alabama,
Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, eastern Kentucky, Louisiana,
Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, and
Virginia.[4] Maps provided by Campbell and Lamar (2004) and Wright and Wright
(1957) also indicate its presence in eastern Tennessee and extreme southeastern
Nebraska.[4][2]
In Georgia it is found in the southern half of the state up to a few kilometers
north of the fall line with few exceptions. Its range also includes the Ohio
River Valley as far north as southern Illinois, and it inhabits many barrier
islands off the coasts of the states where it is found.
Black Bears
** The last time we were at World's End
State Park, we saw a cub. It was walking across the road as we approached
World's End. Mama bear was close by.
Many
Pennsylvania state parks are habitat for black bears. Although they appear
cute and cuddly like a teddy bear, black bears are wild animals.
A black bear can scramble up a tree like a raccoon and sprint as fast as a race horse. Bears use their claws to tear apart rotting logs to find food, and those claws also work well to open garbage cans and coolers. The size and strength of a black bear is astonishing.
Black bears have poor eyesight and fair hearing, but an excellent sense of smell. Aromatic scents coming from your food can attract a curious and hungry bear from a great distance.
Store all food items inside a vehicle. At primitive,
walk-in campsites, suspend food between two trees, ten feet in the air and three
feet from either tree.
Black bears normally avoid people, but bears dependent on eating human food can become slightly aggressive when people get between them and food.
If you come in contact with a black bear, try chasing it away by making loud noises like yelling, honking a car horn or banging a pot. Notify a park employee if you have difficulties with bears.
Never approach a bear and be especially wary of mother bears and cubs.
Ursus americanus
The black bear
ranges across forested Canada from Newfoundland to British Columbia as well as
much of the United States. A solitary animal most of the year, they pair up
briefly during the mating season. Cubs remain with their mother for about a
year, who protects which prevents them from being killed by the adult males.
Black bears swim well and often climb trees to feed on buds and fruit. They
have a keen sense of smell, acute hearing, but poor eyesight. They can be seen
at any hour of the day, but are most active at night. When very young, the cubs
cry when afraid and hum when contented.
Black bears are omnivorous; their diet consists of about 75 percent
vegetable matter, 15 percent carrion, and 10 percent insects and small mammals.
Their love for honey is well known, and sweet, ripe corn in autumn is also a
favorite.